1 00:00:06,309 --> 00:00:03,909 good morning and welcome to today's 2 00:00:08,470 --> 00:00:06,319 mission status briefing with us today is 3 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:08,480 derek hossman the international space 4 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:10,800 station lead flight director who's just 5 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:14,559 coming off his orbit two shift derry 6 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:16,240 good morning thank you and uh it's good 7 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:18,640 to be here today to talk about uh 8 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:21,119 what uh is another productive and uh 9 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:23,199 very busy day on board the shuttle 10 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:24,800 endeavour and the international space 11 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:25,760 station 12 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:28,240 um as i left the the control center the 13 00:00:32,790 --> 00:00:31,039 both crews were wrapping up their day 14 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:32,800 with preparations for tomorrow's 15 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:34,399 spacewalk of course we'll be conducting 16 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,760 the second spacewalk eva 2 tomorrow and 17 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:40,079 the spacewalking crew which were eva 2 18 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:41,760 is going to be drew feustel and mike 19 00:00:45,830 --> 00:00:43,520 fink we're wrapping up their final 20 00:00:48,069 --> 00:00:45,840 preparations a final review of their 21 00:00:50,229 --> 00:00:48,079 procedures gathering of the tools 22 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:50,239 and eventually they'll be uh spending 23 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:51,520 the night in the airlock overnight so 24 00:00:55,590 --> 00:00:52,960 we'll we'll button them up in the 25 00:00:57,270 --> 00:00:55,600 airlock and then depress it to 10-2 and 26 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:57,280 10-2 psi and start what we call 27 00:01:01,029 --> 00:00:59,039 overnight camp out 28 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:01,039 but i'll go back and start with the 29 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:02,239 beginning of the day as you heard 30 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:03,680 yesterday from 31 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:05,840 leroy kane the shuttle program decided 32 00:01:10,469 --> 00:01:08,159 to do a focused inspection which is a 33 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:10,479 procedure that we have a placeholder for 34 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:12,799 on flight day six and it's a way to to 35 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:14,560 use the orbiter boom sensor system to 36 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:16,479 take a closer look at areas of interest 37 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:18,320 on the orbiter tile 38 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:20,640 what that involves is using the space 39 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:22,640 station robotic arm 40 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:24,720 to grapple the obss and pull it out of 41 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:26,640 the orbiter payload bay or the the 42 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:28,640 cradle along the edge of the payload bay 43 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:30,720 we then maneuver the obsessed to a 44 00:01:35,270 --> 00:01:32,720 handoff position at which point the 45 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:35,280 shuttle arm grapples the obss station 46 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:37,520 arm backs off and then the the shuttle 47 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:39,360 crew executes a 48 00:01:43,749 --> 00:01:41,360 pre-planned series of maneuvers that put 49 00:01:45,429 --> 00:01:43,759 the obss in the right position so the 50 00:01:47,109 --> 00:01:45,439 sensors take a look at the areas that 51 00:01:48,550 --> 00:01:47,119 folks wanted to look at 52 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:48,560 that's all completed that was done 53 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,280 without incident and per procedure took 54 00:01:54,710 --> 00:01:53,759 on the order of two hours of crew time 55 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,720 and that 56 00:01:58,469 --> 00:01:56,799 the data and all the imagery collected 57 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:58,479 from that focused inspection is now on 58 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:00,399 the ground in the hands of the imagery 59 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:02,719 team that's going to do the analysis and 60 00:02:06,469 --> 00:02:04,960 report back to the mmt and my 61 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:06,479 expectation is that 62 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,080 when leroy is back to briefly this 63 00:02:13,589 --> 00:02:10,399 afternoon you'll he'll hear more about 64 00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:13,599 the results of that focused inspection 65 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:15,520 in addition in yesterday's briefing we 66 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:17,360 talked about an an issue that we had 67 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:19,200 yesterday during eba one with greg 68 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:22,720 shamatov's spacesuit or his is emu 69 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:24,800 the issue was a failed carbon dioxide 70 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:27,360 sensor uh when we when we lose that 71 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:29,040 carbon dioxide sensor we have rules in 72 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:31,200 place that say that we have to assume a 73 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,840 lesser capability so we had to cut eva1 74 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:35,599 a bit short 75 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:37,200 that again as we mentioned yesterday 76 00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:39,519 that suit will not be used on eva's two 77 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:42,319 or three so uh it will be reused on eba 78 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:44,640 four when sham top goes back outside but 79 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:46,720 what we did today was perform a dry out 80 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:48,319 procedure in which we 81 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,680 blow 82 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:51,680 cool air through the suit and and over 83 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:54,640 the sensor in an effort to dry it out um 84 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,400 interestingly enough when we activated 85 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:57,840 the suit this morning the sensor had 86 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:00,000 already been recovered we had we had a 87 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:02,319 good and nominal reading from the co2 88 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:04,000 sensor which is not completely 89 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:05,360 unexpected is 90 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:06,800 you know it's moisture in the sensor 91 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:08,080 that causes the problem and you would 92 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:09,280 expect 93 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:11,200 once we get the crew out of the suit 94 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:12,800 that that moisture would abate and 95 00:03:18,149 --> 00:03:15,519 evaporate but we went ahead with the uh 96 00:03:20,550 --> 00:03:18,159 the dry up procedure as planned and the 97 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:20,560 the co2 sensor looks good so we're 98 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:21,680 assuming that it's going to be good and 99 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:23,680 we're going to plan to execute a nominal 100 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:25,920 eva4 101 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:28,480 but we do have pre-planned bingo points 102 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:31,040 in all of our evas or spacewalks 103 00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:33,200 such that if you have an issue at any 104 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:34,640 point of the eva 105 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:36,400 any any number of reasons can cause you 106 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:38,400 to come back inside but we have 107 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:40,239 pre-planned points at which we can back 108 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:42,480 out we understand the work ahead of us 109 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:44,239 so that we can cleanly and efficiently 110 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:46,640 cut the space walk short and we've got 111 00:03:51,190 --> 00:03:49,360 those identified for eva4 so our plan 112 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:51,200 going in is to just take one final look 113 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:52,560 at those bingos that we define 114 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:54,720 pre-flight and then make sure that they 115 00:03:59,030 --> 00:03:56,640 make sense now that we've got once we 116 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:59,040 have evas 1 through 3 behind us and then 117 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:00,560 we'll make the right decision based on 118 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:03,200 what happens during eva4 119 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:05,760 we're assuming that this co2 sensor will 120 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:07,040 work well 121 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:08,720 but there's a lot of variables in terms 122 00:04:12,869 --> 00:04:11,040 of how hard greg is working how much 123 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:12,879 he's perspiring how much other moisture 124 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:15,120 is in the suit etc etc so 125 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,600 we got a good dry out a good sensor and 126 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:20,000 we'll plant a nominal eva4 with an 127 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:21,199 understanding that if we have a repeat 128 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:22,800 of the problem we understand how to how 129 00:04:28,469 --> 00:04:26,240 to back out of that eva if we need to 130 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:28,479 additionally yesterday you received a 131 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:31,759 briefing on the plans for the uh for us 132 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:34,080 obtaining imagery during the 25 soyuz 133 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,199 undock 134 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:37,120 we're still continuing working toward 135 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,960 that goal the the plans and procedures 136 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:40,720 are coming together 137 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:42,080 in terms of the status nothing has 138 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:44,160 changed since yesterday uh as a matter 139 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:46,240 of fact as i left the control center uh 140 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:48,080 the 25s crew 141 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:50,560 dima paolo and katie we're reviewing 142 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:52,639 procedures and uplink messages from our 143 00:04:57,590 --> 00:04:54,880 russian colleagues related to that 144 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:57,600 to the unique aspects of the the imagery 145 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:59,840 during the undock and they were there 146 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:01,680 was a plan to have a tag up 147 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:04,000 with the experts in moscow to talk about 148 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:05,680 those procedures so that that plan is 149 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:07,600 coming together very nicely we have all 150 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:09,840 the technical aspects nailed down in 151 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:11,759 terms of the station attitude the 152 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:13,919 attitude timeline the plan for the soyuz 153 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:15,360 and then the plan 154 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,160 for the activities of the soyuz crew 155 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:20,320 inside the spacecraft in order to get 156 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,759 the inventory that we want to get so 157 00:05:24,870 --> 00:05:22,880 that's 158 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:24,880 i'm really impressed uh with the off 159 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:26,400 console team that has worked over the 160 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:27,280 past 161 00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:29,199 five or six days to make that story come 162 00:05:32,310 --> 00:05:30,639 together 163 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:32,320 now they've they've handed that package 164 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:33,759 off to the real time team and we'll 165 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,039 start working it 166 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:37,440 as a nominal part of the mission 167 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:39,280 plan looking forward to the undock on 168 00:05:43,189 --> 00:05:41,680 monday 169 00:05:45,270 --> 00:05:43,199 as i mentioned we started preparations 170 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:45,280 for eva2 171 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:47,680 when i did the pre-flight briefing 172 00:05:52,710 --> 00:05:48,880 i i 173 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:52,720 as possibly one of the more challenging 174 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:54,960 evas just because we're actuating a 175 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:57,360 number of quick disconnects or qd's uh 176 00:06:02,390 --> 00:05:59,680 related to the uh the ammonia system 177 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:02,400 these are qd's that have have had leaks 178 00:06:06,390 --> 00:06:04,160 in the past and have been difficult to 179 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:06,400 manipulate in the past so 180 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,000 there's a real possibility tomorrow that 181 00:06:13,830 --> 00:06:10,800 we will have some ammonia leakage as we 182 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:13,840 as we set up these qd's to do the refill 183 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:16,240 of the leaking photovoltaic thermal 184 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:17,840 control system 185 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:19,440 we've got the procedures in place such 186 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:21,520 that we will decontaminate the eva crew 187 00:06:24,790 --> 00:06:23,199 once they get inside the airlock we've 188 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:24,800 got what we call drager tubes that will 189 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:26,400 monitor the amount of ammonia in the 190 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:28,000 atmosphere 191 00:06:31,670 --> 00:06:30,080 and so we feel comfortable 192 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:31,680 going forward with the eva with 193 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:34,400 understanding that if if we do get 194 00:06:37,029 --> 00:06:36,000 contaminated with ammonia which is 195 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:37,039 possible 196 00:06:41,909 --> 00:06:38,639 we understand how to clean the crew up 197 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:41,919 and keep them safe once they come inside 198 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:43,600 one question that came up yesterday that 199 00:06:47,909 --> 00:06:45,280 i didn't have an answer for was the 200 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,919 total volume of this photovoltaic or 201 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:50,479 pvtcs loop that we're filling the total 202 00:06:55,909 --> 00:06:52,400 volume in the system the volume of 203 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:55,919 ammonia is 55 pounds and what we plan to 204 00:07:01,830 --> 00:06:58,400 transfer or top off the system with is 205 00:07:03,430 --> 00:07:01,840 five pounds of ammonia from the 206 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:03,440 external thermal control system which 207 00:07:06,309 --> 00:07:04,960 was one of the primary systems on the 208 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:06,319 truss 209 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:09,360 i think that's all i have for status 210 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:11,199 okay derek thank you very much we'll 211 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:12,800 take questions now starting here in 212 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:14,080 houston 213 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:15,680 we'll ask you to step up to the mic 214 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:16,639 please 215 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:23,430 yes go ahead 216 00:07:27,029 --> 00:07:25,440 phillip sloss with nasa spaceflight.com 217 00:07:29,189 --> 00:07:27,039 um can you 218 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:29,199 just talk about progress in terms of 219 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:31,440 your mid deck transfer status 220 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:32,880 yeah actually uh 221 00:07:37,189 --> 00:07:34,960 i got a status this morning from our our 222 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:37,199 aco who's a flight control position in 223 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,400 the shuttle 224 00:07:42,230 --> 00:07:40,800 uh flight control room that manages 225 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:42,240 transfer and i don't have specific 226 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:43,599 numbers but he told me this morning that 227 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:46,400 we were well ahead so middeck transfers 228 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:48,560 are all going extremely well we didn't 229 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:50,080 have a lot of transfer on this flight 230 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:51,440 going in 231 00:07:56,830 --> 00:07:55,280 but we're hours and hours ahead 232 00:08:00,869 --> 00:07:56,840 good 233 00:08:02,710 --> 00:08:00,879 gina uh gina cinceri abc news um you 234 00:08:04,869 --> 00:08:02,720 know we heard the pope this morning uh 235 00:08:07,589 --> 00:08:04,879 visit with uh the crew 236 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:07,599 and you know he expressed uh good wishes 237 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:09,680 for paolo nespoli and what that brought 238 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:11,840 to mind is just in terms of long 239 00:08:16,550 --> 00:08:14,080 duration space flight you'll be dealing 240 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:16,560 a lot with those kind of family issues 241 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:18,400 down the road so talk to me a little bit 242 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:20,400 about the wealth of knowledge you're 243 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:23,039 gaining on space station for dealing 244 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:24,960 with crews with long duration space 245 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,280 flight and their family issues and and 246 00:08:33,509 --> 00:08:30,000 how you you know you assemble that for 247 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:33,519 going beyond low earth orbit someday 248 00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:34,959 and one of the things uh one of the 249 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:36,880 lessons learned that we we took forward 250 00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:39,200 from our experience with us astronauts 251 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:41,279 on on the mir space station 252 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:44,000 was was the importance of connectivity 253 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:46,080 with the folks on the ground with family 254 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:48,000 members with mission control and of 255 00:08:51,910 --> 00:08:50,240 course on the mir space station 256 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:51,920 without a network of tdrs satellites 257 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:53,680 they had very limited 258 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:55,760 communications opportunities with the 259 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:58,560 ground you know a few hours a day 260 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:59,920 at best 261 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:01,680 with the space station with our with our 262 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:04,320 network of tdrs satellites we have 263 00:09:09,269 --> 00:09:05,760 quite a bit of coverage i mean at any 264 00:09:11,829 --> 00:09:09,279 given hour we have 40 45 50 minutes of 265 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:11,839 communications with the ground so 266 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:13,680 you know any time any issue they can 267 00:09:16,230 --> 00:09:14,640 simply 268 00:09:17,910 --> 00:09:16,240 make a call to the ground and they have 269 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:17,920 all the 270 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:19,920 resources available to them 271 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:22,560 that we're ready to provide in addition 272 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,560 to that 273 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:26,399 we have regularly scheduled 274 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:28,080 personal family conferences or private 275 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:30,480 family conferences which are video cons 276 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:31,279 with 277 00:09:37,509 --> 00:09:35,760 have what we call the ip phone which is 278 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:37,519 which is a phone that they can 279 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:39,760 essentially pick up and and dial anybody 280 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,080 on the planet um for large portions of 281 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,640 the day and it's not continuous but 282 00:09:48,550 --> 00:09:46,320 it's another important resources for the 283 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:48,560 crew just to stay connected 284 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:50,880 with friends and families and and 285 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:52,000 relatives 286 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:53,279 um 287 00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:55,440 we also have a of an organization here 288 00:10:00,790 --> 00:09:58,800 at jsc whose job it is uh to to 289 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:00,800 basically provide psychological support 290 00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:03,120 to the crew so meet their meet their 291 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:04,959 needs while they're on orbit the 292 00:10:08,949 --> 00:10:07,120 personal needs with friends and family 293 00:10:10,550 --> 00:10:08,959 so i think i i think we actually do a 294 00:10:12,870 --> 00:10:10,560 really really good job and we've come a 295 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:12,880 long way in terms of of family support 296 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:14,240 and psychological support for the 297 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:16,000 long-duration crew members and that's 298 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:17,360 been pretty consistent feedback that 299 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,560 we've gotten 300 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:20,480 when they come home and debrief is that 301 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:22,720 they felt very connected 302 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:29,110 hi rob perlman with collectspace.com 303 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:32,160 tonight this bit work right soon the 304 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:34,560 space walkers will be camping out uh for 305 00:10:38,069 --> 00:10:36,560 the evening but then for the third eba 306 00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:38,079 as i understand you're going to be doing 307 00:10:43,829 --> 00:10:41,519 this new light weight exercise 308 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:43,839 pre-breathe and then if that works you 309 00:10:48,069 --> 00:10:46,640 may do it for the fourth as well 310 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:48,079 so this potentially could be the last 311 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:50,000 camp out 312 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:52,560 my question is how do you determine what 313 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:55,360 works is it just waiting until to see if 314 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:57,600 they for this new procedure does is it 315 00:11:01,269 --> 00:10:59,120 just waiting to see if they get the 316 00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:01,279 bends or is there some test that they 317 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:02,399 have to pass 318 00:11:07,190 --> 00:11:03,120 what 319 00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:07,200 the camp out okay 320 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:09,200 what you're referring to is the in-suit 321 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:11,680 light exercise or what you know 322 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:13,519 everything's got an acronym so we refer 323 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:16,720 to it as isle isle or isle 324 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:17,519 and 325 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:19,920 first i want to make clear that the i o 326 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:22,160 protocol has gone through the same 327 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,560 rigorous ground testing that the campout 328 00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:27,120 protocol and the exercise pre-brief 329 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:29,440 protocol is done so it's been it's been 330 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:31,360 validated with with many many test 331 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:33,440 subjects under many different conditions 332 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:36,000 against the same criteria that the camp 333 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:38,240 out protocol and the uh exercise 334 00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:39,680 pre-breathe protocol were validated 335 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:41,839 against so it's a it's a medically 336 00:11:45,110 --> 00:11:42,800 proven 337 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:45,120 perfectly sound protocol so what we're 338 00:11:48,550 --> 00:11:47,200 doing on orbit is not a test 339 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:48,560 but it's the first time we've used the 340 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:50,880 protocol so that that's why we decided 341 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,200 to use it on eva 3 by starting with it 342 00:11:57,829 --> 00:11:55,440 on eva 1 because anytime you try 343 00:12:00,069 --> 00:11:57,839 something different with something 344 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:00,079 as complicated as a station can be with 345 00:12:04,629 --> 00:12:02,480 with the air lock and and the computer 346 00:12:06,230 --> 00:12:04,639 systems and support systems 347 00:12:08,230 --> 00:12:06,240 we like to go through it carefully and 348 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:08,240 methodically so 349 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:10,240 there is no larger risk of the bins with 350 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:11,760 the out protocol than there is with any 351 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:12,959 of the other protocols that we've been 352 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:14,959 using having said that that would 353 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:18,000 certainly be a criteria that at the end 354 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:20,320 of eva 3 we would ask the crew for 355 00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:22,720 feedback you know was there did you feel 356 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,560 in any differently than you did for eva 357 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:26,160 1 and eva2 358 00:12:29,350 --> 00:12:28,160 um was there anything that you didn't 359 00:12:31,269 --> 00:12:29,360 like about 360 00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:31,279 the way the protocol was executed were 361 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:33,360 there any surprises with the procedures 362 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:34,320 so 363 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:36,320 you know really it's a 364 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:38,079 it's a tested protocol it's a validated 365 00:12:41,269 --> 00:12:39,839 protocol we we consider it equivalent to 366 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:41,279 the ones we're using the ones we'll use 367 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:42,560 tonight and the ones we've used in the 368 00:12:45,350 --> 00:12:44,000 past but 369 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:45,360 since it's new we'll have the tag up 370 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:46,720 with the crew and say 371 00:12:50,550 --> 00:12:48,560 did you feel anything different which we 372 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:50,560 don't expect and is there any were there 373 00:12:54,230 --> 00:12:52,880 any surprises with the procedures do we 374 00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:54,240 need to change something do you know we 375 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:56,639 do do we need to do something better 376 00:13:05,829 --> 00:13:04,069 okay any other questions here in houston 377 00:13:08,710 --> 00:13:05,839 we have reporters on the phone bridge 378 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:08,720 we'll go there now uh marcia done 379 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:10,880 yes hi can you hear me yes here you're 380 00:13:16,870 --> 00:13:14,399 fine um yes derek i was wondering um 381 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:16,880 is there no way to replace the sensor in 382 00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:19,200 greg chamotov's suit or even give him a 383 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:21,760 different spacesuit component so you 384 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:24,160 don't have to worry about this on on the 385 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:26,000 fourth spacewalk 386 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:28,000 yeah generally speaking it it's 387 00:13:32,949 --> 00:13:30,639 difficult to do on orbit maintenance of 388 00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:32,959 of the spacesuits just because of the 389 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:34,480 you know the complexity the suits and 390 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:37,200 the tools and the spare parts required 391 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:39,920 ironically enough but we did fly 392 00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:42,480 we we did fly a spare co2 sensor on this 393 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:44,639 flight it came up on uf6 394 00:13:47,509 --> 00:13:45,680 however 395 00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:47,519 you know it was looking ahead to a point 396 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:49,199 where we had a procedure in place to do 397 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:50,880 the change out so we don't have the 398 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:53,600 procedure is not done it's not validated 399 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:54,959 and we're not ready to do that kind of 400 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:57,440 co2 sensor change out on orbit although 401 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:00,560 looking ahead to a post shuttle station 402 00:14:04,069 --> 00:14:02,720 at some point we will be able to do that 403 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:04,079 and we'll have the spares in place and 404 00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:05,440 the procedures in place we just don't 405 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:07,839 have it for this mission 406 00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:09,680 the other challenge we have is that this 407 00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:13,440 is an extra large hard upper torso or 408 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:15,920 hut that shamatoff wears and we don't 409 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:18,880 have another one of those on board 410 00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:20,320 the third thing so it's not a simple 411 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:21,920 changeout the third thing i'd point out 412 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:24,240 is that there's no guarantee even if we 413 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:25,600 did change out the sensor that we 414 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:27,760 wouldn't have a repeat of this issue 415 00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:29,199 you know it's all driven by moisture 416 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:31,120 which in turn is driven by 417 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:32,880 many times how how hard the crew is 418 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:33,839 working 419 00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:34,720 so 420 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:36,079 what we think is the best posture at 421 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:37,600 this point is to drive 422 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:39,600 the sensor out as we did uh today and 423 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:42,959 then uh give it a go on ebay four 424 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:44,320 thank you and i was just wondering if 425 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:46,639 you could um talk about your feelings 426 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:48,480 and your team's feelings during the 427 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,839 pope's call um it was a historic moment 428 00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:53,279 on both fronts and i'm just wondering if 429 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,560 you could talk a little bit about that 430 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:56,480 aspect please yeah i i thought it was 431 00:15:00,870 --> 00:14:59,120 just an amazing event really really a 432 00:15:02,710 --> 00:15:00,880 beautiful event as we 433 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,720 as we set up 434 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:04,720 for the event we set up the video and 435 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:06,079 check the uh 436 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:08,320 the video and the and the sound with the 437 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,360 crew 438 00:15:13,590 --> 00:15:11,920 on our monitors in mission control we 439 00:15:16,069 --> 00:15:13,600 had a shot of the vatican 440 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:16,079 um and people passing by and then we had 441 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:17,760 had a shot of the uh 442 00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:19,680 of the pope getting set up and getting 443 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:21,839 miked up and i you know it it was just 444 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:25,120 an amazing beautiful event um i thought 445 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:26,639 his words uh 446 00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:29,440 um were extremely eloquent 447 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:31,279 and uh i thought the crew did a great 448 00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:33,839 job of addressing his question so it was 449 00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:35,440 an honor and a privilege to be a part of 450 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:36,639 it 451 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:38,000 thank you very much 452 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:39,519 you're welcome 453 00:15:43,269 --> 00:15:41,440 bill harwood 454 00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:43,279 yeah thanks uh derek a quick question 455 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:45,279 from yesterday uh we were told during 456 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:47,600 the the undocking uh briefing that we 457 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:49,120 got that once they've undocked they 458 00:15:52,470 --> 00:15:50,720 cannot redock 459 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:52,480 um i got to think about that i'm just 460 00:15:55,910 --> 00:15:54,000 curious if they really did have a 461 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:55,920 problem resealing the habitation module 462 00:15:59,910 --> 00:15:58,000 or something like that is there no way 463 00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:59,920 to come back to station or is that 464 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:01,600 absolutely forbidden 465 00:16:04,710 --> 00:16:02,399 thanks 466 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:04,720 well i'll tell you that uh a redoc is 467 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:06,959 not analyzed and when i say analyzed i 468 00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:09,360 mean 469 00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:11,839 the specifics of the clearances the the 470 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:13,519 loads on the station 471 00:16:17,189 --> 00:16:14,480 um 472 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,199 the thing the the attitude control 473 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:19,440 coming back in 474 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:22,320 so that is not it's not an analyzed 475 00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:24,800 configuration that that we would call a 476 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:26,959 nominal backup plan 477 00:16:32,230 --> 00:16:29,440 in addition as you heard yesterday the 478 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:32,240 the hatch a hatch leak scenario or an 479 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:33,680 inability to close the hatch is 480 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:36,720 considered a very very remote outcome if 481 00:16:40,870 --> 00:16:38,160 there was a small leak as you heard 482 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:40,880 yesterday the expectation is that 483 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:43,360 that we would feed that leak and and get 484 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:44,880 the crew on the ground 485 00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:47,040 having said that in the extremely 486 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:49,199 unlikely scenario that you couldn't get 487 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,560 the hatch closed 488 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:52,800 my expectation is that we would uh that 489 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,040 soyuz would station keep 490 00:16:58,629 --> 00:16:57,279 for as long as required a day maybe two 491 00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,639 days until 492 00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:00,800 we as a as the two programs got 493 00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:02,880 comfortable that it was safe to redock 494 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,679 and my expectation in in that scenario 495 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:07,120 is that we would get there we would get 496 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:09,280 comfortable and in that unlikely event 497 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:11,600 we would re-dock 498 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:16,829 okay james 499 00:17:21,669 --> 00:17:19,280 dean right thank you james dean from 500 00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:21,679 florida today i just had a few questions 501 00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:24,400 um first eric you were you mentioned the 502 00:17:28,950 --> 00:17:26,880 potential for ammonia contamination as i 503 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:28,960 recall the um 504 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:30,880 bake out procedures and things like that 505 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:32,240 can be pretty time consuming i was just 506 00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:34,640 wondering if that's built into 507 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:38,080 the eva timeline or if um if you do have 508 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:39,440 to do something like that is that going 509 00:17:42,070 --> 00:17:40,320 to 510 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:42,080 jeopardize getting any of the planned 511 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:43,120 work done 512 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,799 now for for better or for worse we've 513 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:46,640 got a lot of experience with these quick 514 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:48,960 disconnects and the ammonia leakage that 515 00:17:54,150 --> 00:17:52,000 often accompanies those operations so so 516 00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:54,160 what we do is we build 517 00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,080 what we call the wet ammonia quick 518 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,799 disconnect operations or the the 519 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:01,039 operations that the crew is actually 520 00:18:04,470 --> 00:18:02,960 opening and closing the valves and and 521 00:18:06,549 --> 00:18:04,480 making the connections 522 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:06,559 we build those uh we build the timeline 523 00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:08,480 such that those activities with the 524 00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:11,039 so-called wet qd's are in the first half 525 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:13,760 or first third of the eva so therefore 526 00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:15,360 you know we get to a point about halfway 527 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:16,960 through the eva where we're done with 528 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:19,280 ammonia and then we can take credit in 529 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:21,280 terms of bake out time in the second 530 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:23,280 half of the eva for eva2 for example 531 00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:25,440 we're doing work on the the solar alpha 532 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,919 rotary joiner sarge so we're getting 533 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:29,600 bake out credit for that entire time 534 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:31,039 where we're doing other work so 535 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:32,880 generally speaking 536 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:35,280 we don't lose content if we get 537 00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:37,760 contaminated 538 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:39,760 thanks uh regarding that sarge work i 539 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:41,600 was wondering if you could 540 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,840 air it at all to what was done on 126 i 541 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:45,039 was thinking 542 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:46,960 that maybe that was a little bit more 543 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,799 arduous because there was some debris 544 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:50,559 that needed to be uh scraped up and 545 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:52,080 cleaned off that i 546 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:53,520 presume isn't going to be necessary this 547 00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:56,000 time that's cool but how similar are 548 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:57,039 they 549 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,280 uh very similar operations we we don't 550 00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:01,520 expect uh to do like you said we don't 551 00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,799 expect to do the kind of cleanup that 552 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:04,960 was required on previous missions uh the 553 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:07,840 lubrication itself is very similar and 554 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,320 uh as a matter of fact i mean this this 555 00:19:14,789 --> 00:19:12,160 particular the the port sarge has been 556 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:14,799 performing very well and we're we're a 557 00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:16,559 few months ahead of where this 558 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:17,919 preventative maintenance would actually 559 00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:20,240 be required um but since we had the 560 00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:22,160 opportunity we're going to go into it go 561 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:23,600 go take care of it now and get it out of 562 00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,720 the way 563 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,559 but you are correct and that we don't ex 564 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:28,000 we certainly don't expect and hope we 565 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:30,880 don't find uh any significant debris or 566 00:19:36,789 --> 00:19:34,320 any other uh contamination on the joint 567 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:36,799 uh thank you and lastly um i just have 568 00:19:39,909 --> 00:19:38,480 heard some mentions of storm 569 00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:39,919 troubleshooting i'm not familiar with 570 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:41,039 what's going on there and i just 571 00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,720 wondered if you could explain that and 572 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,640 is there any uh potential issues 573 00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:46,640 regarding the uh re-rendezvous and use 574 00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:48,160 of storm for that 575 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,720 no issues big picture no issues with the 576 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:53,200 the storm hardware and no impacts or no 577 00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:54,720 changes to the re-rendezvous that we 578 00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:03,510 okay is that it from you james 579 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:04,960 thank you 580 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:08,320 any other questions here in houston 581 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:10,320 seeing none we'll wrap up this briefing 582 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:11,919 you can follow 583 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:14,320 activities in space the international 584 00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:16,880 space station and endeavour's